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<journal-id>1517-9702</journal-id>
<journal-title><![CDATA[Educação e Pesquisa]]></journal-title>
<abbrev-journal-title><![CDATA[Educ. Pesqui.]]></abbrev-journal-title>
<issn>1517-9702</issn>
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<publisher-name><![CDATA[Faculdade de Educação da Universidade de São Paulo]]></publisher-name>
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<article-id>S1517-97022021000100303</article-id>
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<article-title xml:lang="pt"><![CDATA[Tomada da palavra e conquista do tempo livre: uma entrevista com Jacques Rancière]]></article-title>
<article-title xml:lang="en"><![CDATA[Enacting speech and conquering free time: an interview with Jacques Rancière]]></article-title>
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<surname><![CDATA[Waks]]></surname>
<given-names><![CDATA[Jonas Tabacof]]></given-names>
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<name>
<surname><![CDATA[Carvalho]]></surname>
<given-names><![CDATA[José Sérgio Fonseca de]]></given-names>
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<surname><![CDATA[Valle]]></surname>
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<name>
<surname><![CDATA[Greco]]></surname>
<given-names><![CDATA[María Beatriz]]></given-names>
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<institution><![CDATA[,Universidade de São Paulo  ]]></institution>
<addr-line><![CDATA[São Paulo SP]]></addr-line>
<country>Brasil</country>
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<aff id="Af2">
<institution><![CDATA[,Université Paris 8  ]]></institution>
<addr-line><![CDATA[ ]]></addr-line>
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<institution><![CDATA[,Universidade de São Paulo  ]]></institution>
<addr-line><![CDATA[São Paulo SP]]></addr-line>
<country>Brasil</country>
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<aff id="Af4">
<institution><![CDATA[,Universidade do Estado do Rio de Janeiro  ]]></institution>
<addr-line><![CDATA[Rio de Janeiro RJ]]></addr-line>
<country>Brasil</country>
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<aff id="Af5">
<institution><![CDATA[,Universidad de Buenos Aires  ]]></institution>
<addr-line><![CDATA[Buenos Aires ]]></addr-line>
<country>Argentina</country>
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<pub-date pub-type="pub">
<day>00</day>
<month>00</month>
<year>2021</year>
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<pub-date pub-type="epub">
<day>00</day>
<month>00</month>
<year>2021</year>
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<volume>47</volume>
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<self-uri xlink:href="http://educa.fcc.org.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&amp;pid=S1517-97022021000100303&amp;lng=en&amp;nrm=iso"></self-uri><self-uri xlink:href="http://educa.fcc.org.br/scielo.php?script=sci_abstract&amp;pid=S1517-97022021000100303&amp;lng=en&amp;nrm=iso"></self-uri><self-uri xlink:href="http://educa.fcc.org.br/scielo.php?script=sci_pdf&amp;pid=S1517-97022021000100303&amp;lng=en&amp;nrm=iso"></self-uri><abstract abstract-type="short" xml:lang="pt"><p><![CDATA[Resumo Esta entrevista, concedida em fevereiro de 2021, explora os vínculos do pensamento de Jacques Rancière com a filosofia da educação. Inicialmente, o filósofo aborda aspectos de sua trajetória intelectual, sua relação com maio de 68 e suas pesquisas nos arquivos operários, que nutriram a elaboração de obras como A noite dos proletários e o levaram a romper com os pressupostos de Louis Althusser sobre as relações entre saber e política. Em seguida, Rancière analisa a recepção de O mestre ignorante , marcada, segundo ele, por leituras equivocadas que a identificam ora como uma obra sobre a história do pensamento pedagógico, ora como uma metodologia de ensino a ser aplicada. Ambas leituras ignoram a concepção de emancipação intelectual proposta por Joseph Jacotot e a visão do próprio Rancière acerca das relações entre teoria e prática. Na discussão sobre o artigo Escola, produção, igualdade , único de seus textos voltado prioritariamente ao que ele denomina forma-escola, o filósofo destaca a importância das diferentes noções de temporalidade com as quais trabalha e coloca em questão a capacidade que a escola teria, hoje, para promover igualdade e tempo livre ( skholé ), por ter se tornado a instituição finalizada por excelência, aproximando-se cada vez mais das lógicas da hierarquização e da desigualdade. Ao final, o diálogo envereda por uma reflexão sobre o presente: a ascensão da extrema-direita em países como o Brasil e os Estados Unidos da América, marcada por aquilo que Rancière denomina paixão pela desigualdade.]]></p></abstract>
<abstract abstract-type="short" xml:lang="en"><p><![CDATA[Abstract This interview, given in February 2021, explores the links between Jacques Rancière&#8217;s thought and the philosophy of education. Initially, Rancière addresses some aspects of his intellectual trajectory, his relationship with the events of May 68 and his research in workers&#8217; archives, which nurtured the fabric of books such as The nights of labor and led him to break with Louis Althusser&#8217;s assumptions on the relations between knowledge and politics. Then, Rancière analyzes the reception of The ignorant schoolmaster , which is, according to him, marked by mistaken readings that associate it either to a book about the history of pedagogical thought or to a methodology to be applied. Both readings ignore Joseph Jacotot&#8217;s conception of intellectual emancipation and Rancière&#8217;s view of the relations between theory and practice. In the discussion on the article School, production, equality , his only text mainly dedicated to what he calls school-form, the philosopher highlights the importance of the different notions of temporality in his thought and questions the school&#8217;s ability to promote equality and free time ( skholé ) today, as it has become the finalized institution by excellence, increasingly closer to the logics of hierarchy and inequality. In the end, the dialogue addresses a theme related to the present: the rise of the extreme right in countries like Brazil and the United States of America, marked by what Rancière calls passion for inequality.]]></p></abstract>
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