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<journal-id>0104-4060</journal-id>
<journal-title><![CDATA[Educar em Revista]]></journal-title>
<abbrev-journal-title><![CDATA[Educ. rev.]]></abbrev-journal-title>
<issn>0104-4060</issn>
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<publisher-name><![CDATA[Setor de Educação da Universidade Federal do Paraná]]></publisher-name>
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<article-id>S0104-40602016000300293</article-id>
<article-id pub-id-type="doi">10.1590/0104-4060.46863</article-id>
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<article-title xml:lang="pt"><![CDATA["O poder que ainda não está no poder": Paulo Freire, pedagogia crítica e a guerra na educação pública - uma entrevista com Ira Shor]]></article-title>
<article-title xml:lang="en"><![CDATA["The power not yet in power": Paulo Freire, critical pedagogy and the war on public education - an interview with Ira Shor]]></article-title>
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<surname><![CDATA[Shor]]></surname>
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<surname><![CDATA[Saul]]></surname>
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<surname><![CDATA[Saul]]></surname>
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<institution><![CDATA[,City University of New York Programa de Pós-Graduação em Inglês ]]></institution>
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<country>USA</country>
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<institution><![CDATA[,anasaul@uol.com.br  ]]></institution>
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<institution><![CDATA[,asaul@hotmail.com  ]]></institution>
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<institution><![CDATA[,Pontifícia Universidade Católica de São Paulo Programa de Estudos Pós-Graduados em Educação ]]></institution>
<addr-line><![CDATA[São Paulo São Paulo]]></addr-line>
<country>Brazil</country>
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<pub-date pub-type="pub">
<day>00</day>
<month>09</month>
<year>2016</year>
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<day>00</day>
<month>09</month>
<year>2016</year>
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<volume>00</volume>
<numero>61</numero>
<fpage>293</fpage>
<lpage>308</lpage>
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<self-uri xlink:href="http://educa.fcc.org.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&amp;pid=S0104-40602016000300293&amp;lng=en&amp;nrm=iso"></self-uri><self-uri xlink:href="http://educa.fcc.org.br/scielo.php?script=sci_abstract&amp;pid=S0104-40602016000300293&amp;lng=en&amp;nrm=iso"></self-uri><self-uri xlink:href="http://educa.fcc.org.br/scielo.php?script=sci_pdf&amp;pid=S0104-40602016000300293&amp;lng=en&amp;nrm=iso"></self-uri><abstract abstract-type="short" xml:lang="pt"><p><![CDATA[Resumo Ira Shor &#233; professor da City University of New York's Graduate Center (Phd Program in English) e no Departamento de Ingl&#234;s do College of Staten Island (CSI). O Dr. Shor tem se dedicado ao ensino de alunos da gradua&#231;&#227;o e p&#243;s-gradua&#231;&#227;o, na perspectiva da educa&#231;&#227;o cr&#237;tica. O trabalho de Shor com Freire teve in&#237;cio em 1980 e se estendeu at&#233; 1997. Ambos s&#227;o coautores do primeiro livro falado de Paulo Freire intitulado, no Brasil, Medo e ousadia: o cotidiano do professor. Nesta entrevista, concedida aos professores Alexandre Saul e Ana Maria Saul, o professor Shor discute a import&#226;ncia da pedagogia cr&#237;tica na forma&#231;&#227;o de professores, diante de um cen&#225;rio global de crescente conservadorismo e ado&#231;&#227;o de pol&#237;ticas p&#250;blicas de educa&#231;&#227;o neotecnicistas, que contribuem para obstaculizar a autonomia das escolas e dos professores. Ele diz da atualidade do pensamento de Paulo Freire como uma possibilidade fact&#237;vel de constru&#231;&#227;o de uma educa&#231;&#227;o p&#250;blica e democr&#225;tica no bojo da qual a forma&#231;&#227;o de professores precisa se fazer com di&#225;logo, respeito aos diferentes conhecimentos e formas de conhecer, horizontalidade nas rela&#231;&#245;es humanas e indissociabilidade entre teoria e pr&#225;tica. Ira Shor destaca que, para Paulo Freire, a constru&#231;&#227;o de um mundo mais justo, para todos, necessita de uma utopia que tenha ra&#237;zes bem plantadas na hist&#243;ria. Enfatiza a impossibilidade da neutralidade da educa&#231;&#227;o e a necessidade da conscientiza&#231;&#227;o para transforma&#231;&#227;o da realidade.]]></p></abstract>
<abstract abstract-type="short" xml:lang="en"><p><![CDATA[Abstract Ira Shor is a professor at the City University of New York's Graduate Center (Programa Phd em Ingl&#234;s) and at the English Department at the College of Staten Island (CSI). Dr. Shor has been dedicated to teaching undergraduate students and graduate students from the perspective of critical education. The work of Shor with Freire began in 1980 and lasted until 1997. Both are co-authors of the first talking book by Paulo Freire, called in Brazil Fear and boldness: the teacher's daily life. In this interview, with Professors Alexandre Saul and Ana Maria Saul, Professor Shor discusses the importance of critical pedagogy on teacher education, in the face of a global setting of increasing conservatism and adoption of educational public policies of a neo-technicist character, which contribute to hinder the autonomy of schools and teachers. He highlights the pertinence and timeliness of the thought of Paulo Freire as a feasible possibility of building public and democratic education in the midst of which teacher education has to be done with dialogue, respect for different types of knowledge and ways of knowing, horizontality in human relations and inseparability between theory and practice. Ira Shor points out that, for Paulo Freire, the construction of a more equal world for all, would need a kind of utopia that has well planted roots in history. He emphasizes the impossibility of education neutrality and the need of awareness to transform reality.]]></p></abstract>
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